Michael Jospe
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Nadine, thank you for sharing all of that info about Aspens. They are such amazing trees, and such a rich metaphor for how interconnected we all are… and especially this particular configuration of humans! I especially love that growth is still possible after the leaves have been dropped and after a forest fire. What is this telling you about nature connected coaching?
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Hi all,
The bus from the airport to boulder is very easy. Look up rtd sky ride A/B. Please let ivy know your itineraries if your flying in so we can track everyone.Thanks! So excited to get started with you all!
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Also, you can find the recordings in the top right corner of the classroom, under course navigation. The links are also at the bottom of this page
Happy Thanksgiving, everyone!!
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Hi gang, hope this helps with the coaching vs. therapy question. I’m going to cover a lot here, more than the questions that are asked.
Are you treating trauma? If so that is therapy. Treating would look like focusing on the diagnosis and mapping a treatment plan where the focus is entirely on the treatment of trauma. If you ever had to provide your coaching notes in court, it would clearly be focused on the treatment of the diagnosis of trauma. That is not coaching.
Coaching holds trauma as a part of the client’s experience with the central focus on the client’s goals. Your coaching notes would show that and show measurable progress in that direction. There would also be no evidence that you as the coach are holding an agenda that is focused on treating trauma. This might look like noting the trauma, but focusing on the desired outcome/experience (Deeper Need) the client determines and noting how the client identified the steps towards their own success. Mind-body awareness is not isolated to the treatment of trauma. It can be a part of that, for sure, but m/b awareness is just developed awareness. Creating Awareness is an ICF core competency, and as long as m/b awareness is helping the client take steps towards his/her goals, you’re golden (not sure what isn’t m/b awareness, actually).
Remember, coaching is informed by (among others) the fields and research of psychology and neuroscience. At the level that you are coaching – the depth at which you are “creating awareness” for your client – the coaching could become more effective than then clinical therapy, but that is for your client to decide for themselves. At this high level you need to stay very focused on client goals (outcomes), and to not get pulled into treatment. If that happens, it is a good indicator that the client needs more clinical support which can present a wonderful opportunity for you to partner with a trauma therapist to support your client.
In my initial sessions with a client who has a focus on trauma or some diagnosis, I often ask them, “why are you seeking coaching over clinical treatment?” This opens the door to establish a clear difference between the two and highlight what side of the road you’re on. I also ask about their treatment history and if they are working with anyone at this time. If so, I will ask for permission to collaborate. If not, I will often ask for permission to speak to a professional they have worked with around this diagnosis to get their opinion on if coaching is appropriate for the client. If they have never worked with anyone before, I will very clearly explain the difference between the two and allow them to make the decision, with the understanding that if they choose to move forward and it becomes clear that more support is necessary than I will make those recommendations (in fact, that is in my disclosure form).
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1- Your scope of training is important. If you have or decide to get more trauma training than what is taught at EBI, you can blur the lines a bit more as an experienced and trained trauma professional. However, the line still needs to be clear – to the client – as to when you are treating and when you are coaching.2- If you are going to dive deep into trauma-based coaching (primary focus) then I would suggest both more education and finding a clinical trauma therapist who would supervise you: help you make sound decisions as a coach, support your understanding of the skills and techniques of that form of trauma treatment, and maintain a record of your work with your clients. This will cover all the bases and provide you with an additional layer of liability protection.
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Hi everyone. Thank you for your flexibility last night. I know that meeting on Monday might mean that some of you cannot attend, I am sorry about that. I am excited and grateful for your participation in this course. Following your learning through this has inspired a next step…which I’ll talk about on the call!
Let’s take this to the next level!
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Thanks for your feedback, Rachel! And thanks for your question too. This is something I’m really curious about as well and still feeling a bit unclear about – the line between coaching and therapy and where is “safe” territory for me to work within without crossing too far over into therapy territory. I would love to hear mentors thoughts on this as well.
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Thank you for breaking the ice, Amanda!!
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Hi Wendy!
Here are some notes from the welcome letter! Let me know if you need anything else. I am looking forward to meeting you in person!
Foundation’s Intensive Address (June 22-30)
The Starhouse
3476 Sunshine Canyon Dr, Boulder, CO 80302
303.245.8452
You are responsible for your own lodging and food during the Face-to-Face intensive.
The best option will be to pack a lunch each for each day of training.
We will not be doing any backpacking so feel free to pack in regular suitcases or duffle bags if you’d like. -
Also, bring bug spray just in case but you probably will not need it at the Starhouse. If you are lodging near the river or creek than possibly more needed.
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Joshua- There is so much in this post! How wonderful that you have a tool that can deepen your understanding of your wife’s needs! Even though she is not your client, you are learning how these skills can be applied to your life and loved ones. Honestly, if you trace back into the lineage of these skills, that’s what they’re truly for! It’s all about listening. Imagine how life could be if our conversations with others (and ourselves) were soul-directed! I’m excited for you.